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Posted by yaaqovh on March 6, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To Cromie Barton Abilene Reporter News editor

You are hurting me, and the work I am sent here to do. You need to pray very hard you are not my slave in Heaven! I need to post here on ARN, and communicate with my friends who are posting here. You keeping me from posting here will cost you dearly when you wake up in Heaven. I do not want to be your enemy, but you are very close to becoming one. ARN needs to allow me to post messages here from now on. If I do not get my messages posted you will not like your rewards Heaven.

This is just a warning for your best interest.
Yaaqov

 

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Hawkins arrested on sexual assault charge

OTS-Hawkins2007-10-17-1192667436.jpgA Callahan County man reported to be a member of the House of Yahweh religious sect remained in jail on $500,000 bail Thursday after his arrest Tuesday for the alleged sexual assault of his 14-year-old stepdaughter. Abilene police arrested Yedidiyah Hawkins, 40, on a Callahan County warrant for the second-degree felony, which is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.

Callahan County's investigation began with an anonymous report to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services by former members of the Yahweh sect, called John Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2 in the arrest affidavit. CPS abuse reports often stay anonymous to protect informants, according to a TDFPS spokesman.

Both sources, who maintain close ties to the sect the affidavit said, had been told by current members of the House of Yahweh that Hawkins had molested the girl, whom he had begun preparing to marry.

From those reports, Child and Protective Services, a division of TDFPS, interviewed Hawkins' stepdaughter at the Abilene/Taylor County Child Advocacy Center. She "made outcries that she has been molested since she" was 8, the affidavit said. Hawkins most recently assaulted her in his bedroom around Oct. 4, the affidavit said.

When Hawkins came to pick up the girl Tuesday afternoon, Terriell Perkins, an investigator in the Abilene Police Department's youth division, arrested him, police said.

The House of Yahweh is an Old Testament-based religious group with headquarters with a compound of about 50 acres between Clyde and Eula in Callahan County, according to Reporter-News files. Bill Hawkins, a former Abilene policeman who left the department in 1977, founded the sect in 1980.

Hawkins later changed his name to "Yisrayl" Hawkins, and many members of the House of Yahweh have changed their last name to Hawkins and adopted an unusual spelling of their first name, usually incorporating at least one letter "y."

Yisrayl Hawkins' group has attracted media attention on several occasions. In July 2006, Abilene police investigated the death of a 1-month-old boy whose death and burial had not been reported to authorities. An autopsy later indicated that the child died of malnourishment and traumatic asphyxiation. No charges have been filed in the child's death.

Also, a sect member pleaded guilty to injury to a child by criminal negligence in October 2006 for performing surgery on her 7-year-old daughter, which authorities said led to her death.

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Posted by TellitlikeICit on October 19, 2007 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The entire sect needs to be closed. How sick. This man needs to be strung up by his ....

Posted by mp3 on October 19, 2007 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pervert

Posted by fromcentex on October 19, 2007 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shoot em all

Posted by jamieg on October 19, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't even begin to understand what kind of terrible man could do this to a child. This is so terrible. I only hope that the poor child will overcome this. God bless the heroes who saved this poor thing and took her away from her tormentor. There is a special place for the people who rescue these children. God bless you all at the police and childs advocate center and cps. You are wonderful people.

Posted by rsjz4 on October 19, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to know why the one couple was not charged in the death of their infant. He died of malnourishment and asphyxiation and no one was charged. This is a cult through and through. I used to work with a lady who was a member. They give all their money to the leader and then live off the welfare system.

I am sure this little girl is not the only being molested and being 'prepared' for 'marriage'. The whole compound needs to be investigated.

Posted by wild_bill on October 19, 2007 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What I hate is every time Bill Hawkins is mentioned, the Distorter News reminds everyone he used to be an Abilene Policeman. They might as well say he was born on a Tuesday, or raised in a hog pen or was an alter boy or whatever. (and no, I have no idea what day he was born on, where he lived or if he even went to a real church in his life). Whatever he "was", the focus needs to be on what he has become. He left the force in '77. It's long past time to drop the connection between Hawkins and our local heros.

Posted by strictnow on October 19, 2007 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VERY WELL SAID..wild_bill. What in the world
purpose does mentioning this have ANYTHIING
to do with this horrible crime?????

Posted by jamieg on October 20, 2007 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree too. That man has no connection to the police in the Abilene I live in. I don't think any one cares any more what either of these men used to be. Look at the evil they have done. My heart aches for that poor girl. How many others have they hurt? The time now is to give thanks for the strong people who stand up to monsters like them and save children. Those are the heros.

Posted by yaaqovh on October 20, 2007 at 2:04 p.m.

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Posted by texmade2 on October 20, 2007 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this person will have his day in court, but as
for any religious group , they all have members
who have been accused of alleged sexual assault .
if he even went to a real church in his life, what is a real church, did god say any religious group
was a real church, or dose it need to have so much
money , or lots of people, or maybe there is no such thing.

Posted by texmade2 on October 20, 2007 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh by the way no I do not belong to
any religious group,

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 21, 2007 at 12:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The problem is that the sum of the HOY members are people who are quite simple. Additionally, most members possess the attributes that allows for someone like Mr. Hawkins to take full control of their lives in order to create faithful followers to serve his specific needs, holy or unholy. The unfortunate part is however, that their are many victims caught in the wake of this madness specifically the children of the followers who know no other way of life. These children have grown up conditioned to believe this is the truth despite their rightful apprehensions. Don't they react to these apprehensions you might ask yourself safe and sound outside the HOY compound? Yes of course they do just like any other faithful follower would, by subjecting their own flesh & blood to the same conditions that held them captive. Additionally, The thought of breaking the cycle is perceived as sacreligous and an impossiblity once coupled with threats of potential harm or the loss of their salvation... The reality is these people need the help & support from the people of their community. Although, this may be a tough request to address just know that there are MANY innocent women & children out there right now who could use your help.

Posted by efowl33 on October 21, 2007 at 3:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I say ship them all off to a small island somewhere, they are some strange folks. Nothing but a cult, get rid of them, also killing property values out in the Eula area.

Posted by tacmanj on October 21, 2007 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This reminds me somewhat of the Jim Jones fiasco a number of years ago. It just hasn't reached the point of mass suicides. Hers hopping thatg it doesn't!!!!!!

Posted by fender on October 21, 2007 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is amazing how small peoples minds have become in America, they believe everything that they read in the paper. Don't you realize that the propaganda that you read it there to make you believe everything and anything. First of all this man has not been convicted of anything only accused, yet some dull minded people have already convicted him because of their inability to reason or understand that the laws. As for the child case this couple was not convicted because there was no crime committed. However, because some of you believe everything that is written in the paper, you think that this is truth...Well wake up people you are being manipulated by the biggest con game in all of history it is called mainstream media. As for the House of Yahweh, they teach their people to live by the laws of the bible, which of course most of you slow minded people don't understand because most of you have never read a bible in your life. If one person goes astray you are saying that the whole community is responsible? So next time your neighbor kills someone should we kill the whole neighborhood or anyone who knew the killer? Where does this guilt by association we are promoting come from? I think that anyone who has had any association with someone from the House of Yahweh, knows that for the most part they are a very honest, trustworthy, hard working people. I can't believe some of the comments that I have seen on this article. Before you become the judge and jury why don't we let the legal system do it's job first? And should one person be found guilty where does that say that everyone is in agreement with that person or follows that persons mindset? I know of many people everyday who are found guilty of crimes, however, i don't see their religion being promoted in these supposedly acurate news reports? I don't see people saying let's go kill the whole church? This is America and people have the right to follow the bible as they believe it, in fact, if our forefathers didn't buck up against the church and government tyranny, we wouldn't be living here today free to choose our beliefs. The House of Yahweh condemns sodomy, beastiality, adultery, child molestation, drunkeness and every other sin (I John 3:4) that is condemned by the bible.

Posted by texmade2 on October 21, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by fender on October 21, 2007 at 10:18 a.m
well put

Posted by rsjz4 on October 21, 2007 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You say no one was charged in the death of the one month old because there was no crime committed?? What do you call malnourishment and TRAUMATIC asphyxiation? I call those crimes.

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 21, 2007 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just in case I forgot to mention that my comment was based on fact from the INSIDE.

The only propaganda noteworthy here is not the media, but the above active believers comment by de "fender".

So fender who specifically were you refering to when you made this comment?

"...most of you slow minded people don't understand because most of you have never read a bible in your life."

Reporter News readers?

Texans?

Americans?

Are you sure about that?

Anyway, My opinion still stands because unfortunately it's not based on what I read.

My final comment or let's call it a prophecy, he will be convicted.

Posted by EyeBeam on October 21, 2007 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a few things to say: (doubt you will listen to someone who isn't lying and tearing people down, but I'll try)

1. Isn't it innocent until proven guilty? I would bet a hole in a doughnut that this article said ALLEDGED not found guilty.

2. Why don't we announce all the churches the not only alleged but actual offenders grew up in or go to? Also, if we shot all of their churches, there would be very few people left on the Earth.

3. How about some of you get the beam out of your own eye and look in the mirror? Why do you have so much hatred in you that you would LIE and want to KILL people who you don't even know, people that have never done a thing to you or your family?

4. I wonder if all the newspaers are going to run this story the same way when he is proven innocent? I doubt it, they will probably just post a small article, a few lines or not even mention it. Because you know, anything positive about the House of Yahweh calls them liars.

One more thing, please lets not forget the millions of CHRISTians and Catholics that are comvicted (not alleged, but actually proven guilty in the Court of Law) of this crime every day, hour, and second. So many of them that the jails are bursting at the seams. Please be sure to leave the dirty nasty comments you left here on the bottom of those articles, you know, if you can stand not being hypocrites for a second.

If you all think The House of Yahweh is hurt by your nastiness, please, The House of Yahweh has gone through this for over 40+ years and continues to get healthier, wiser, and stronger!

Posted by cycloptic on October 21, 2007 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually in cases where there is suggestion that the church supports or has ignored misconduct by its members or leadership, that fact is repeatedly and persistently revisited by the media whenever a similar situation comes up. The folks over at the Los Angeles Diocese of the Catholic Church, or the LDS will attest to this fact. HOY and its leadership are blameless because they claim to reject immorality and sexual abuse? I guess the Catholic church must also be blameless then. Talk about propaganda.

Posted by always_thinking on October 21, 2007 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For the 2 Yahweh defenders above that both mentioned other posters wanting to "KILL" people who they don't know. Did you read a different forum than me or did I miss something? Who said anything about killing?
String him up by his -expletive- if he's guilty, close the sect and ship them off are all there and seem like honest to come by opinions but you both brough up people wanting to kill you? Did you guys all have a meeting last night where you were told the people in the paper want to kill you?
I'm no fan of cults myself as i've never seen anything good come of them but I am a big fan of arresting possible child molesters and an even bigger fan of punishing them to the full extent of the law when found guilty. I find it hard to believe if he was turned in by a third party, the girl spoke out against him, and there are detailed accounts of times it occured he can be found innocent but you can all pray for him.

Posted by always_thinking on October 21, 2007 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, killing an innocent baby IS a crime whether you do it by neglect or accident or on purpose - ask the guy just given 30 years for it. If it wasn't a crime why did they bury the body and try to hide the death? I have no idea why charges weren't filed and last time the paper brought it up neither did anyone else. It was apparant by the evidence and medical reports at the time the child did not die of natural causes which leaves 2 facts. 1) the child was killed 2) the parents who were members of this cult tried to cover it up
I would love to see a public statement by the police department on why that poor baby was allowed to be murdered and nothing done about it.

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 21, 2007 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point always_thinking and the reason is because they actually did have a sermon yesterday announcing to them to prepare themselves to die because the outside world will want to come and kill them.

Posted by abbilene on October 21, 2007 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Eyebeam-
HOY founded in 1980. 2007-1980= 27 years. Not 40. So there you go, a lie. No, this man may not have hurt me personally, and yes, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. However, if he is guilty, he has "done something to me". He has made our world less safe, and profoundly damaged a child. (The majority of pedophiles, from what I understand, are former victims. Therefore, he is possibly inflicting damage on future generations.)
I am anxious to see your post if/when this man is convicted.
I am sure that any person, regardless of religious affiliation, would be strung up on these boards if the same alligations were made against them. Pedophiles are an easy target, be they HOY, LDS, Catholic, or any other religion. (BTW, Catholics are Christians, no need to separate the two.)
Why are you so hostile if you are trying to show the world what a great religion HOY is, anyway? Aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek? You are sounding a little defensive to me....

Posted by yaaqovh on October 21, 2007 at 5:42 p.m.

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Posted by HOY_defector on October 21, 2007 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the fenders of the HOY...

Being a past member we would like to offer you some advise. We left because being like the Bereans Acts 17:11 we reading the Bible as you assert saw the errors of these teachings. We left many friends because error is error and must be treated as so, especially when the leaders state so emphatically that they are correct. We can truly say as so many others have; you will one day learn the same thing and be saddened that you could have ever been associated with sucn men... Proverbs 9:9!

Posted by yaaqovh on October 21, 2007 at 6:54 p.m.

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Posted by Pure_Light on October 21, 2007 at 7:09 p.m.

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Posted by matteroffact on October 21, 2007 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please re-read the following which all users agreed to do when they signed up.

"Comments are the sole responsibility of the person posting them. You agree not to post comments that are off topic, defamatory, obscene, abusive, threatening or an invasion of privacy. Violators may be banned."

I suggest that all users be banned that are typing individual persons names and saying things about them. Unless YOU WANT A LAWSUIT!

ARN needs to remove Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins for naming names and DEFAMING OTHERS.

He is making up lies and does not have his facts straight. I don't believe this comment section was provided to defame the public and add to news articles.

I believe if he has listed your name on here or on his website, you should get an attorney and sue him for defamation of character as soon as possible!

Posted by JoeBob on October 22, 2007 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whats up with the censorship? I read those comments and they werent bad. They weren't probably the truth but not sure why that mens they need to be deleted.

Posted by always_thinking on October 22, 2007 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The yaaqovh post was a little out there but the post itself wasn't defamatory at all and ARN can't censor the webpage he made. Pure_Lights post was deleted after the yaaqovh post and I didn't see anything the least bit wrong with it.
Meh, guess if we really want things brought out in public we should call that nice lady in Jim Ned and tell her we need her to make some of those phone calls she's good at. ;)

Posted by Pure_Light on October 22, 2007 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You want your name to be slandered and your reputation questioned? If your going to post peoples names, then you need to make sure your facts are true!!! DON'T YOU THINK?

Posted by cromeensb on October 22, 2007 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Folks,

Comments are removed when they are defamatory and libelous. Skip Stanley's (or Yaaqovh) comments fell under that category.

Allegations were made and stated as fact against named individuals when no such charges have been made in civil or criminal courts.

If you want to read what Stanley has to say, you are more than welcome to visit his site. We have left a post by him that was not libelous, and it includes his url.

We want to provide a forum that is open to all, but there are legal issues which make it necessary for comments to be removed at times.

We rarely touch posts and grant folks a lot of leeway in what they say.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to call or email me.

Barton Cromeens
Editor
Abilene Reporter-News
cromeensb@reporternews.com
325-670-5221

 

Posted by matteroffact on October 22, 2007 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ARN did the right thing by removing some of these comments. Yes, they were Deflamatory and an invasion of privacy. Anytime you mention a person by their name, and say things, in this case, lies, about them, it is deflamatory and defamation of character and all the above.

If you feel these comments were removed and should not have been, please, always_thinking and JoeBob, please do, show us who you are, use your real names. You hide behind your real names here, but if your real names were put out there and lies were being told about you, I guarantee you would request your name to be removed.

Posted by Pure_Light on October 22, 2007 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THIS COMMENT ALSO NEEDS TO BE DELETED FROM THIS PAGE:

Posted by fromcentex: Shoot em all

FENDER HAS A GREAT POINT:

If one person goes astray you are saying that the whole community is responsible? So next time your neighbor kills someone should we kill the whole neighborhood or anyone who knew the killer? Where does this guilt by association we are promoting come from?

Posted by always_thinking on October 22, 2007 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm saying he was being defamatory in his website, not in the actual post he made and Pure-Light was just making fun of his name and his site and there is certainly a lot of making fun of people going on in these forums.

Posted by yaaqovh on October 22, 2007 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to you

I have all my facts very streight, and I am getting to the bottom of The House of Yahweh. I have much more to add to everything I have stated, and Yisrayl Hawkins is the leader teaching all these people what they are doing is right and clean, but I will prove some of the things they teach are illegal. I will post Scripture here, instead of the true personal facts of who's Who in The House of Yahweh. I will leave that for my movie. I am begging for The House of Yahweh to explain what I did not have right in my whole website, because I would love to get it perfectly right. every name, and every action! I am waiting for your specific remarks so I can change the misspelled words, because I am very sure that is what needs fixed. It's a matteroffact many of their names are very hard to spell.

We can all enjoy the Fathers Words here.

Sorry you do not really want the truth about hoy exposed yet, but when you want to know more you know where to look;

www.skipstanley.com

Yaaqov

Posted by Pure_Light on October 22, 2007 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE IN:

1 THESSALONIANS 4:11-
MAKE IT YOUR AMBITION TO LEAD A QUIET LIFE, TO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!

Posted by 7chagith613 on October 22, 2007 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For the HOY we will serve Yahweh. I don't expect any justice to come from such allegations. Remember innocent until proven guilty oh i forgot this is Callahan County for any member of the House of Yahweh you are guilty until proven innocent.Do you people sleep at night thinking and scheming ways to bring the HOY down? False accusations, case in point Christian people you say you read the holy scriptures so were the prophets killed, beaten throw in jail from accusations when they were sent to warn the people. Yahshua Messiah was put to death by accusations no one wanted to know the truth why because he kept the 613 laws of Yahweh. Anytime you keep these wonderful laws it brings about hatred to the very ones who think they are so smart and educated. But your minds are so darkened, like i said before we will serve Yahweh, but go on Christian people and continue to serve your gassy god which can do nothing for you. This comment is for open minded clear thinking people, do you believe everything you see and read, The so called media will try and sell you a 3 headed monkey and then tell you it's really a human being we created in a lab. Do you really think there will be justice in this case. Noooooo!!!!
Yisrayl Hawkins who you like to smudge and throw dirt on is a man of peace. Remember you may persecute the HOY with your lies and reproaches but this only makes the HOY stronger. Like the scripture says oh fools and slow of heart not to believe all that the prophets have written. I feel sorry for you because you are a deceived people who seek after signs but their won't be any signs in these last days. Yahshua said forgive them for they know not what they do. You people don't know why you hate the House of Yahweh. I'll tell you this everything you do is a choice and you say we do everything Yisrayl tell us to do yes we do because it is according to the law and prophets and what do you do any and everything that is right in your mind. So stop hating on the Hoy because you people who have encountered the HOY people have been shown anything but respect. This HOY will be raised up for the world to see.

Posted by always_thinking on October 22, 2007 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a very straighforward question to ask the HOY members on this forum. We can clear up a lot of accusations and speculations right here.
Do your teachings promote having sexual contact with girls under the age of 15? I've never encountered a HOY, I don't know but I want to.

Are you saying Hawkins is being accused falsely of sexual contact or that he had the contact and just shouldn't be in trouble for it?

Let people know the truth from the horses mouth and you can clear up a lot of disdain for your organization. As is there are accusations and there are HOY members upset about the accusations but not denying or clarifying. One of you, current not ex-communicated, tell us clearly where HOY stands on this type of activity with young girls. Does it happen? If it does you must believe its right so tell us why. If you don't believe its right you must have an obligation to keep it from happening. What do you believe?

Posted by yaaqovh on October 22, 2007 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to ALL;

Aways_Thinking has asked the right question!!! Please answer the question 7chagith613! I am a ex-member, and I KNOW the truth! Hoy even teaches oral sex in their priest classes to children as young as 7 years old! I have proof! Yisrayl Hawkins and all the Elders believe there is no blood in sperm, and teach their members it is clean, healthy to eat! This is written in The Dead Sea Scrolls: DSS The Damacus Doc. Ch.1 verse 30. And they chose the pleasures of the throat\31 and justified the wicked and condemned the just\32 |20| and *transgressed The Covenants\33 and broke The Statute,
I am very specific in my statements. I do not slander anyone. I told the truth, with names and dates, with specific actions. I do want to be apart of hoy 7chagith613. I really love the hoy members, and I love YHWH, but Yisrayl Hawkins excommunicated me in 1995 for disagreeing with his sexual beliefs with children, and I have found your group is now VERY involved in much worse activity than in 1995 when I was excommunicated from your group. 7Chagith613 we are ALL waiting for your answers! DO YOU BELIEVE A MAN CAN HAVE SEX WITH A GIRL UNDER THE AGE OF 15, and IS ORAL SEX ACCEPTABLE?

Yaaqov Hawkins

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 22, 2007 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

7chagith613 John[yahachanan 4:23]: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John [yahachanan 4:24]:The Heavenly Father [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. No, the CREATOR of ALL is NOT a GASSY GOD..but neither is he the GOD hoy members are worshipping: He is NOT the GOD of the thunderbolts. Another LIE hoy perpetuates is that the yode hey waw hey - the name of the father is pronounced yahwe. This has not been proven, only the YAH. at this point in time. check out http://womanandmenofsamaria.blogspot.com..., or http://creatorschildrenarevalued.blogspo.....
best to search on yahoo search engine to find. One of the major problems with hoy is they do not worship in spirit or in truth, nor do they know the only name under which one will be saved..the name of the mashiyach, which has the entire, full name of the heavenly father in it, which is why the 13th apostle false paul made it a crime to pronounce the mashiyachs name, as it had the full name of the Father in it, so was considered blasphemy, and he as a member of the Sanhedrin gave the order to have certain disciples killed..hence "stephen", who was probably not "Stephen" as his knowledge far exceeded a new convert..he was most likely an ORIGINAL disciple of the TRUE MASHIYACH. dear hoy member, there is SO much you do not know, but I do realize that hoy keeps their members so busy working to pay for THEIR BOOKS OF YISRAYL and their olive leaf extract and other "essential"[will not make it into the kingdom unless you BUY it b.s. crap]..that it leaves NO TIME to study and look for the REAL TRUTH which can be found in the non-tampered non-massorettic texts- HOY would be the first to crucify the true disciples and true MASHIYACH if they knocked on their door, and the MASHIYACH would surely condemn this FALSE RELIGIOUS bunch of malarchy talmudic rabbinic--heirarchy..keep em in bondage, separate the people in order of importance..meanwhile the mashiyach told his true disciples, John 15:15:Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his teacher doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All
I was a member, and involved with these people personally, and they are still personal friends of mine. This job I am doing is bringing out the truth! A Righteous man has nothing to hide, so what is Yisyayl Hawkins problem? The Elders of hoy are there to help people, Yedidiyah, Kepha, and Jacob Moshe are suppose to answer these questions so get them here so they can defend there reputation if they find my words false! I do not want to hurt these old friends of mine, but these old friends are hurting children in hoy, and something must be done about the errors of their ways. I have given Yisrayl, Yedidiyah, Moshe, and Kepha 15 years to repent of hurting people, and now I will stop them with The Laws of YHWH, and our Texas State Laws, because what they are doing is Illegal in every Court of Justice. Polygamy, child abuse, and murder are illegal and it is a proven FACT they are involved in Illegal activities with-in hoy, and hoy is teaching these practices in their priest classes. Would you like to see just how far I am taking this problem? Because this sexual activity is a taught practice of hoy, every member may lose their children to CPS. Hoy as a group teach Child Abuse, and I have proven these facts. The hoy members have NO RIGHT to keep their children, and every hoy member could find jail time for their beliefs. So you need to wake-up before you get arrested! Practicing a religion is fine, but when your religion causes Child Abuse, and breaks State Laws that is where I draw the line! Your Leader Yisrayl Hawkins is the real problem, but every one of you are going to suffer because you break The Creators Laws, and The Laws of Texas!
DSS The Damascus Doc. Ch. 7 ver. 1-8 The commanding one is he who prophesies concerning which he said, "For a surety they do drop words\1." They are ensnared by two: by fornication\2, taking two wives during their lifetimes\3, *but the foundation of the creation\4 is, "Male and female created He them\5." And they who came into the Ark, "Two and two went into the Ark\6." As to the prince\7 it is written, "He shall not multiply wives unto himself"\8,
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All
CPS, and The FBI agents Gary McKnoll and Dan Cotner, as well as Callahan County Sheriff Eddie Curtis, were all aware of these things many years ago. I am pushing these men to do their jobs. I ask them to forgive me, but I care more about the innocent children than their reputations! This is why I am called; Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins, by my friends, because everyone thinks I am "Pushie"! Sorry if this offended these people, but they really have no idea how many people they are hurting in not doing their jobs. I have had many arguments with the Elders about these teachings, and they ALL tell me there is nothing wrong with oral sex, and it's healthy to EAT!!! Read; DSS The Damacus Doc. Ch.1 verse 30. And they chose the pleasures of the throat\31 and justified the wicked and condemned the just\32 |20| and *transgressed The Covenants\33 and broke The Statute, I read this whole first Chapter to Yisrayl Hawkins in his office in 1995, and he stopped me from reading any more and had Matt Stubbs, Kepha Arcemont, Aniyah Bolder, and Shaul Schneider excommunicate me from the House of Yahweh that same day, and told me I would burn in HELL!!! 7Chagith613 is this love?
I am very convinced the birds of one feather flock together, and after 20 years of ex-communicating members, everyone who stands against this teaching left long ago. When this is finished, more than half The House of Yahweh will be in jail, if they do not repent, and change their beliefs. I have been pushing for arrests of every Elder with-in the group, because they are ALL responsible for these troubles, because they teach it to the children!!!
This is a WARNING TO The House of Yahweh members!!! Wake-up! I am pushing this to The Whitehouse, and The State of Texas is hearing me as you can see!!! After 15 years of begging Yisrayl Hawkins, and the Elders to repent, forgiveness is not available for these leaders. I spend ALL my TIME NIGHT and DAY working to STOP Yisrayl Hawkins, and put him, and ALL his Elders into PRISON!!!
7Chagith613, I do what I do in genuine concern for your children because you are the ones deceived. I ask you to read the first page of my website, because it is written to help hoy people see the truth. Give me a try. I really do understand exactly what you believe. I was a member for 6 years from 1988-1995, and helped write the books of Yisrayl Hawkins you are studying from. Please study outside his books. Read the Dead Sea Scrolls you will find more Truth. You know Yisrayl Hawkins accepted These Scrolls, so please read them.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Please everyone write letters to the Attorney General's Office, and cry out for help!!! Unless the State feels that it is the publics' desire to fix this situation, they stand still, as I have been trying to get this situation fixed for two years with the State. I have been to every Law Enforcement Agency in the Country with these complaints.
I called Callahan County Attorney Shane Deel on 10/19/07 at 2 p.m. to report what I have found, but Shane's Investigator “Tee Barton” threatened me if I continue my work on this case, I would be in trouble! He told me "Did you see the news? We are prosecuting Yedidiyah, and that is all we are going to do" He told me there will not be any investigation into these murders, and I better not call The County Attorney's Office of Shane Deel ever again! Then he hung up on me! I have Witnesses, who are in danger of being murdered, and The State of Texas is not even interested in talking to them, and for two years this has been the case, but now things are becoming very critical, as Yisrayl Hawkins knows I am getting very close to completely exposing his evil. I now fear Yisrayl Hawkins will murder my people, but I am too close to stopping this mad-man to stop what I am doing. The reason the Law Enforcement are moving, is because they are being pushed into it. Please write more letters to The State of Texas, and Whitehouse with your concerns.
These things are All TRUE and Correct, and I beg The Heavenly Father Strike me dead if I lie about anything I have stated, before the sun sets today!!!

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Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To be clear, in 1995 I was kicked out for presenting the truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but in 6/2004 I brought the information about the Father's name and the amount of salt on the sacrifice from the Dead Sea Scrolls, on the telephone to Yisrayl Hawkins. He published and copywrited in 11/2004 the information about the name and said he found the amount of salt to be used on your sacrifices. Ask Yisrayl Hawkins to show you where the salt on the sacrifices is written in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Have him show you, if he knows! I know he doesn't know, because I did not tell him exactly where it was written in the Dead Sea Scrolls, as I wanted him to search it out himself and study it. http://www.skipstanley.com/hoy.htm
Also, to be VERY clear-any parent who allows their children to be taught House of Yahweh beliefs, does not deserve to keep their children. I am pushing this to the Whitehouse, so expect trouble. When you were seven years old, do you recall being in a class that taught you about oral sex? How do you think that would have affected your character today? Please hoy members answer my questions.

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Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 23, 2007 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I strongly feel the "Shoot em all" comment SHOULD be removed as it is definately a derogatory statement that has no redeeming value other than to promote hate in the form of a "hypothetical" scenario. I feel to allow this statement to remain IS irresponsible of the Reporter News to allow posted on a public forum such as this.
Furthermore, I feel it also does not follow within the agreement guidelines stated below i.e. "obscene" definition 2d from Websters 10 edition Collegiate Dictionary; "so excessive to be offensive" . I'm sorry to shift the focus here but, that comment is definately EXCESSIVE and extremely offensive to me. It is in my opinion in these days we need to STOP the message of hate (PERIOD) no matter how harmless a comment like this may seem. Therefore, I would like to thank Reporter News in advanced for doing their part in society for choosing to make this forum hate free environment.

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I had a friend of mine's daughter get brain washed by this group- they beat her up too. it took forever for her family to get her out...this group is still trying to get her back in their sect.

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

did Jesus ever beat any one up??

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

did Jesus ever try to force his opinions or ways on anyone or did he give us free will?? Did he ever harass the ones who chose another path??

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 23, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If it matters. I'm not a member.

Posted by DB on October 23, 2007 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hope he gets life without parole. And the lady that killed that girl should be right behind him... If it was you or I, that's where we would be. Hope the both rot in hell.

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

another question-----does everyone in this sect have to change their last name??just curious

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I understand what you are trying to do Yaaqov. You made mention in one of your comments that you fear Yisrayl will murder your people-what does "my people" mean exactly?? I thought we were all Gods people not a mans or a prophets or a preachers or a leaders etc...

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't recall anyone having to change their names to whoever they were following at the time or give the apostles all their money in order to follow them.

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All:

I have been corrected as to the spelling in my posts. According to the Abilene Reporter News, the name Corinna Metcalf, is spelled Karena Metcalf, in Lisa Metcalf's obituary.
http://obits.reporternews.com/content/30...

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Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All:
The name change to Hawkins is not mandatory, but LOT's of peer pressure from other members. Originally, the reason for the name change, we were told, was to have it put on your passport in order to go to the Nation of Israel as a "family". Now,that idea is out the window and apparently Eula is the New Israel and where the temple is, which is why they have the fake ark up in front of their podium, with an actual silohette of Yisrayl Hawkins on each side of the ark, with the books HE writes and SELLS, inside of it.
The thing I really want to get stopped is these members are Auling/Piercing the ears of their new born babies into Yisrayl Hawkins door post, because hoy teaches this must be done in order to get salvation. The reality of the ear piercing makes these members Yisrayl Hawkins slaves. The Scriptures say be no man's servant, because we are bought with a price!

1Cr 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify The Father in your body, and in your spirit, which are YHWH's.
1Cr 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
Deu 15:11
For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
Deu 15:12
[And] if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee.
Deu 15:13
And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go away empty:
Deu 15:14
Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: [of that] wherewith The Father hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him.
Deu 15:15
And thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in the land of Egypt, and The Father redeemed thee: therefore I command thee this thing to day.
Deu 15:16
And it shall be, if he say unto thee, I will not go away from thee; because he loveth thee and thine house, because he is well with thee;
Deu 15:17
Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust [it] through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant forever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise.
Deu 15:18
It shall not seem hard unto thee, when thou sendest him away free from thee; for he hath been worth a double hired servant [to thee], in serving thee six years: and The Father shall bless thee in all that thou doest.

To be continued;

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Continued:

Hoy Members these are The Fathers Words, and your leader is causing you to make Auled Slaves of your children!!! Please Wake-up, and question your Leaders intentions!!!

I really am begging the hoy members to get your Elders onto this site to defend their reputation, or will they hide from everyone like their leader has for 20 years? 1st Peter 3:15: "But sanctify The Creator in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" So, you have been asked the questions regarding your sexual practices, NOW ANSWER!!! Where are The House of Yahweh answers???
I am fighting for your children, because the life you are living is in vain, and the sunshine you are waiting for will soon turn to rain!

Love everyone, and make them your friend.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to all:

The term "my people" is wrong! These are the Father's People. You are right, I am corrected.
I have some people inside hoy that work with me to stop Yisrayl Hawkins. Someone hacked into my email, and changed my password this week, and i think it was hoy. This has jeopardized some of the people helping me, and now these people are in trouble. This is a very serious job, and these member who are fearing a prison sentence if they get caught, have already murdered more than once, and will not hesitate to do it again. Especially after getting away with it so many times in the past.

Leaders are enpowered by the followers.

In the past the State of Texas feared Yisrayl Hawkins was the witness, but now this misunderstanding is no longer a problem. This is why Yisrayl Hawkins has had so much power. Because the people gave him his power, but now we take it away, and he will soon be alone in his iniquity, and The Father will bring freedom to His oppressed People.

Pray for the people in The House of Yahweh too see the Truth.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by Pure_Light on October 23, 2007 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Comments are the sole responsibility of the person posting them. You agree not to post comments that are off topic, defamatory, obscene, abusive, threatening or an invasion of privacy. Violators may be banned.

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thank you for answering my questions.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 23, 2007 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Pure_Light:
John[yahachanan] 3:20: For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

John[yahahchanan] 3:21:But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in the heavenly Father.

It seems to me that yaaqov is trying to help the oppressed people in hoy and that he has proof for all of his statements. Everyone wants the real TRUTH of the matter, and NOT to cover it up. We should all have the freedom to state comments we have proof of. I've been a member of the hoy for over twelve years, I can also verify that what he has written IS true, not to mention all the information that is verified by the media: whether it be ktab or abilene reporter news. It is TIME for TRUTH! No more covering up of lies. Too many people have suffered because of lies! I also personally remember the children being lied to that there would be a school again soon for them at hoy, as a matter of fact last Sabbath they even had the audacity to state "summer work is over now, school will be starting monday" [for the fbi's benefit i am sure] Meanwhile there is NO school there to teach these children of whom many cannot even read or write. Sadly, I bet some children were excited about the announcement and probably asked their mom or dad, wow, is there really school Monday?--The parent's would probably not know what to say, as they would not be certain of it's truth or not. Not only does the Pastor and his upper eschilon LIE, they cause the members to have to lie in one way or another and quash the hopes of their own children. There is in fact, NO SCHOOL for these children that teach Reading, Writing, Arithmetic,Social Studies, though I know there is a class teaching oral sex to those as young as seven years old, and that is a fact.

Posted by 7chagith613 on October 23, 2007 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see that a lot of fall aways have a lot to say but I will say this you can say what you want to say and believe what you want to believe because if you did'nt accept the truth when it was given to you what makes you think you will accept it now. I am not going to justify your ignorance because you are very bitter individuals and are looking for a platform to discredit the HOY w/ your false accusations. Three out of the 4 will fall away and you have fallen so hard you can't get up. Keep your theories and conjectures to yourself because you are doing Satan's job for her but it will come to an end very soon. Just like w/ Yahshua he was accused again and again and again. Like i said before did they want the truth. Of course not, i will not waste another letter on you because you are full of darkness and the is no truth in you. It says misery loves company and you seem to be very miserable and confused, maybe your computer has a short circuit or something. But there is help Yahweh's way. These people are so disgruntled they could'nt wait for something like this to occur smear the House anc cause other people to hate us w/o a cause. Everyone is a free will agent that make their own choices in life to either do right or wrong. The House of Yahweh are a peaceful people that teaches peace not hatred. But there are people who hate the HOY so much that they are making a choice to bring forth rumors gossip and accusations while putting innocent peoples lives in danger. Like it says in the scriptures they will accuse you w/o a cause. I know what the House of Yahweh stands for and it begins w/ Truth.

Posted by viet737 on October 23, 2007 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am very surprised by the comments that's being posted by Yaaqov. You're stating that there are classes teaching oral sex and the so called 'eating of semens' are healthy. Why is it that when I listened to the House of Yahweh's sermons, every elders teaches us to abstain from sexual impurity and the sexual perversions of this world is what's causing a lot of the diseases to spread quicker than anyone can find a cure for. You said you have proof, please show me where this proof is taught.

You also states on your website that the House of Yahweh teaches people to eat unclean foods. If so, then why is there a booklet which teaches which foods are clean and unclean and why do they have a clean/unclean list? Please let me know where are you basing these information on.

Even though I'm not a baptized member of the House of Yahweh yet, I had been on their sermon tape list and Prophetic Words magazine for over a decade now and I had never once in any of their publications or sermons ever hear them preach what you're stating. About you stating that Yisrayl Hawkins will come after you if you leave, I recalled in his sermons that he states over and over again that you're free to walk out of there if you want to and he's not even going to try to call you back. If you leave, you leave on your own. I cannot see Yisrayl Hawkins ever harming anyone since that will great bother his conscience since his mind is built upon Yahweh's 613 laws.

After reading your website, it seems like you're very bitter about whatever reason made you leave the House of Yahweh. I knew of the House of Yahweh when I went to school with one of their members about 12 years ago. Being raised in a catholic family, I felt a certain warmness and truth in the teachings from the House of Yahweh that were never taught in any mass that I had ever attended. Never once did I ever hear any preaching of violence or mind control that you're mentioning. I can sense a person's sincerity by listening to them and I hear Yisrayl sometimes cries in his sermon on the way things are going in this world. He is very sincere on teaching only Yahweh's laws and nothing more and nothing less. When I listen to the materials that's being taught in the House of Yahweh, everything is backed up by scriptures or authoritative books.

I am not writing this to criticize you but just shocked by your continual postings on how you portrayed the House of Yahweh which is totally different than the feelings that I get when I listen to the teachings or talk with any of the elder.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 23, 2007 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all,7chagith613, the Mashiyach-whose name has the FULL name of his father in it..was NEVER ACCUSED OF CHILD MOLESTATION! HE WAS PERSECUTED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH AND FOR EXAMPLE OVERTHROWING THE MONEY-CHANGERS TABLES IN FRONT OF THE TEMPLE! YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, SHOULDN'T YOU? THE HOY SELLS ON SABBATH,WHETHER IT BE BUFFALO PRINTED MONEY WITH YOUR BUFFALO GOD YISRAYL HAWKINS, OR PLEDGES, WHICH IS SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS. OH, AND LET US NOT FORGET THE ABOMINABLE ARK IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM WITH A SILOHETTE OF YOUR GOD YISRAYL HAWKINS ON EACH SIDE AND THE BOOKS OF YISRAYL HE SELLS IN YOUR FAKE ARK OF "THE TESTIMONY"- YOU SHOW ME WHERE IN YOUR SCRIPTURES THAT THE TRUTH WAS EVER SOLD, EVER? AND LET US NOT FORGET TO MENTION THAT YISRAYL HAWKINS LIES AND STATES IN HIS PEACEFUL SOLUTION BOOK THAT HE IS A DOCTOR, AND HAD ALL OF US SPEECH CLASS MEMBERS GIVE SPEECHES IN WHICH WE LIED AND HAD TO LEAVE OUT OUR SPIRITUAL FACTS ON HOW WE CAME TO KNOW ABOUT HOY, AND JUST PRETEND WE HEARD OF "DOCTOR HAWKINS" AND HIS PEACEFUL SOLUTION PROGRAM! OH, YEAH I AM SURE THE HEAVENLY FATHER WAS WELL-PLEASED WITH THAT ONE-DENYING ONES'FAITH? NOT!!!!
I CAN ONLY PRAY YOU WILL SEE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND SADLY HAVE NOT EVEN PROVEN THE FATHERS NAME-YOU ONLY TAKE THE HOYS WORD FOR IT..THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN IS YAH. AND BY THE WAY THE SON HAS THE FULL NAME OF THE FATHER IN IT AS WELL..THE FULL NAME, NOT PART OF IT.
JOYFUL STUDYING TO YOU..I HONESTLY PRAY YOU WAKE UP!

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All:

WOW! Where is my keyboard...

Unclean That is where I will start.

Hoy eats Beef for there passover lamb!!! WOW That's a lamb, or goat? The Dead Sea Scrolls explain these laws further, and until hoy understands the Dead Sea Scrolls I must stop their, but know there is more.

This is another very important point that today most everyone overlooks. We are Commanded to separate from the unclean, and protect our children. 99% of ALL my friends have their children sleeping with dogs, cats, or worse rabbits, and snakes. These are unclean to HWHY, and you are unclean if you touch the unclean animals. ALL my friends are suffering from disorders caused by Parasites. Some just feel like they are coming down with a cold every once in a while, and others have many problems like; Diabetes, liver disorders, obesity, mentally retarded children, etc... They all say we have had dogs, and cats for years, and have not died yet! These Parasites do not kill you, they just live inside you, eating, pooping, and having babies. These Parasites infect every part of your body, and cause miscarriage, and mentally retarded children! The more your children touch these animals the more infected they get. Did you know HWHY said no dogs, or cats could come into Yerushalayim, because the city was not to be defiled, and the dogs were to stay out side the city gates. This was one of the things spoken about in The Dead Sea Scrolls. In "The House of Yahweh" people are Commanded to ware masks, and rubber gloves in the sanctuary, because the threat of germs! Yet most all these people have their children sleeping with dogs, and cats!
Let me help you, because what you do not know WILL hurt you!
Toxoplasma gondii is smaller than a pin head, but very intelligent!

Description:
Toxoplasma gondii is a serious zoonotic parasite that can cause serious problems in unborn children and babies. Congenital infection occurs when tachyzoites are transmitted across the placenta from mother to child. This can cause severe problems, including: heart problems, hydrocephalus, retinochoroditis, and hepatosplenomegaly. 30 % to 40 % of adults in the U.S. have been exposed to Toxoplasma. Humans infected early in life may have recrudescent infections, which can lead to serious disease in immunosuppressed individuals. Acute infection may cause fever, enlarged lymph nodes, flu-like symptoms, and muscle aches and pains. Acute infections are usually acquired from ingestion of infected meat or from ingestion of oocysts.

http://www.skipstanley.com/the_unclean.h...

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Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by Paradise_Lost on October 23, 2007 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Skip please move on as you are NOT helping anyone here. Additionally, DO NOT USE proper names period. Do you think you can control yourself? Truthfully noone cares what you have to say. Additionally, you are misusing this forum to serve your OWN needs. Therefore, please stop or stay on topic.

Posted by Pure_Light on October 23, 2007 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WELL SAID!!! Paradise_Lost. :)

Posted by viet737 on October 23, 2007 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Yaaqov,
Are you stating that Beef is unclean or that lamb is not being used at passover?

You states that 99 percent of your friends have their children sleeping with animals. After the stressing of keeping cleanliness by the elders in the House of Yahweh, I can't imagine any member sleeping with their animals. In one of the sermon, Yisrayl Hawkins also suggests that we use lye soaps to clean all of the bacterias and take off our shoes before entering our homes so that we won't tract all of the filth from outside in our homes. If he's going to this extent to stress cleanliness, then I don't see how he can teach us to eat unclean foods and sperms.

I'm still looking for your proofs where you states that the House of Yahweh teaches you to eat unclean foods and where they teach that 'eating sperms' are healthy. In some of the most recent sermons, I keep hearing Yisrayl Hawkins and the Elders teaching us to eat certain foods such as tumerics, spirulina, and other plants to build up our immune systems and also take the super foods to give us enery. I don't recall any of these plants being listed as unclean in the Book of Leviticus. About the parasites that you're mentioning, they also teach about those parasites getting into your innermost parts and causing all kind of confusions. And have you heard about the superbugs that CNN recently talked about? I recalled Yisrayl Hawkins talking about that for years.

Please don't take me the wrong way Yaaqov. I want to discuss this with you in peace and wants to see where you're basing all of your information from.

Posted by jamieg on October 23, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Truthfully noone cares what you have to say."

I do.

Posted by jamieg on October 23, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If one person goes astray you are saying that the whole community is responsible?"

If the community's values supported him doing it, yes.

Did Yededya Hawkins go astray Pure_Light?

"WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE IN:

1 THESSALONIANS 4:11-
MAKE IT YOUR AMBITION TO LEAD A QUIET LIFE, TO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!"

Molesting children doesn't qualify for "mind your own business". Neither does murder.

Disgusting.

Posted by jamieg on October 23, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If he's going to this extent to stress cleanliness, then I don't see how he can teach us to eat unclean foods and sperms."

Jimmy Swaggart spoke out against immorality. Jim Baker spoke out against greed. Cardinal Mahoney opposed homosexuality. Rush Limbaugh hated drug addicts. Do you believe everything you hear?

Posted by setfreebythetruth on October 23, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the HOY members:
READ the scripture, not the Book of Yahweh, search out the truth for yourself. You will see where you are being deceived.

To the Ex-HOY members: Praise our Heavenly Father that you learned whatever lesson you needed to learn in your life from this experience and move on. Thank Him for allowing your eyes to be opened and letting you find the TRUTH.

To the persons in the communities outside the HOY:
Share your knowledge as often as you can with the HOY. Maybe some of the truth will soak through.

A very kind person in Clyde, Texas shared her religious books with me over 12 years ago. I thank her from the bottom of my heart. I was at a yard sale in Clyde and I was a member of the HOY. I had my doubts about the TRUTH being taught at that time. I shared with this kind lady that I was seeking the TRUTH and looking for books to buy to prove what was being taught was wrong. She gave me every book she had on sale at the yard sale and then went inside and brought back more that she gave me. My finding the TRUTH came without a price.

Since then I have been set free from the bondage of a life that they profess to live in the HOY...a life of trying to keep laws that our Heavenly Father sent His Son to fulfill. Of course, they will tell you He didn't fulfill it. But when they do, they deny HE even came and died and shed His blood for us.

Our Heavenly Father loves us all, He wants us to love one another.

Please help these people that are so deceived. Pray for them. Offer help with information that may save them.

Posted by viet737 on October 23, 2007 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Jimmy Swaggart spoke out against immorality. Jim Baker spoke out against greed. Cardinal Mahoney opposed homosexuality. Rush Limbaugh hated drug addicts. Do you believe everything you hear?"

All of these people with probably the exception of Cardinal Mahoney made big money with what they did. They all have big homes and fancy cars. From what I know, Yisrayl Hawkins lives in a trailer and drives an old beat up cadillac. If he's in this for the money, maybe he should teach what the mainstream wants to hear since he'll gain more members like the above folks does. With the amount of people that we hear leaving due to his teachings of 613 laws, it doesn't look like that leaves him with much money. Does any of above men stress the keeping of Yahweh's 613 laws? It appears that Yisrayl speaks as if he's afraid of being severely punished if he breaks any of the law which would force him to keep in line when he teaches since he knows that our Heavenly Father Yahweh is listening. I had never personally met Yisrayl Hawkins but just from his teachings and tone of voice when he teaches, it appears that he wants to only bring out the truth and accept any kind of mockings for trying to do so.

Please note that I'm speaking from an outsider's point of view since I'm not a baptized member but just a person who speaks from what I see and hear.

Posted by jamieg on October 23, 2007 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If he's in this for the money, maybe he should teach what the mainstream wants to hear since he'll gain more members like the above folks does."

Maybe he wants something other than money. Power, multiple wives, recognition as a prophet maybe. Perhaps other things. Who knows?

"I had never personally met Yisrayl Hawkins but just from his teachings and tone of voice when he teaches, it appears that he wants to only bring out the truth and accept any kind of mockings for trying to do so."

I personally can't accurately judge honesty and motivation in strangers from recorded audio.

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People of hoy!!!

You can only answer this question if you have been inside the group long enough for the topic to be explained to you by an Elder. Ask an Elder if oral sex is ok, and if sperm is ok to swallow. I have had lots of arguments with Kepha Arcemont, Levi, Matt Stubbs, Shaul Schneider, Aniyah Bowler. These are the only Elders I have personally had this argument with, and They ALL told me the same thing: "There is no blood in sperm, and their wives can do this act." Next they tell me, "What do they do when their wives are bleeding?" Do you really think they would advertise this sickness?
NOW!!!! I have asked a question, as well as other people here...

CAN A MAN MARRY A GIRL 15 YEARS OLD IN HOY?
YES or NO Answer please.
Your lack of answering is convicting you!

HOY Elders: Is there blood in Sperm? YES or NO
Answer Please!!! Please, someone go get the Elders that I have mentioned in this forum. Someone get Yisrayl Hawkins. We need answers. We too want to go to heaven and we want to be saved. Please tell us the answers to these questions. The world will end soon and we all want to be saved. Please hurry.

The House of Yahweh would not dare teach these practices over the radio! They are just deceived, not stupid. We will let time prove this question!

Beef is clean to eat if it is kosher killed, but NOT for the Passover. Only Lamb is acceptable to the Father as stated in:
Exd 12:21Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the Passover.
This makes their Passover unclean as they use either buffalo or beef usually. They are breaking the Commandment as it was written.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by setfreebythetruth on October 23, 2007 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Skip,

You know the difference between someone that has been excommunicated from the HOY and someone that left on their own.

The ones excommunicated have to still try to hold onto the legalist point of view and try and hang onto to the laws taught in the HOY.

The ones that have left on their own are set free of these laws and their eyes are opened and they see the truth.

Posted by viet737 on October 23, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see where you're coming from Yaaqov. First of all, I would like to know how did this topic of swallowing semen came up in a law class. Even though it's true that there's no blood in the sperm, I'm sure they would had advised you that sperm makes a person unclean until sunset. With this being the case, I would be surprise if they tell you that you can eat sperm. I'm not saying I doubt you but I would be surprised if they did say this. I do recall a sermon where Yisrayl Hawkins states that any bodily fluid including semens are unclean and if you get any on you, you will be unclean and you must wash your clothes.

As for marrying a 15 years old, in today's society, it is a taboo. But if you recalled back in the old days of our Savior Yahshua, I think that Miriam was at a very early age of 14 when she married Yahseph and had Yahshua. To answer this question, I would say that my study of the scripture does not say you cannot marry a 15 years old girl but in our society, that is not an acceptable practice. This is more of a cultural question rather than a moral question since I do know that in some cultures, young girls marry as soon as they're able to bear children which is at the age of 12-13. Is this right? Again, it depends on the culture that you're brought up in but keep in mind that the scripture never said anything about a girl having to at a certain age to marry.

If you're indicating that the Elders are teaching one thing on the sermon tape and another thing in law classes, then I can't prove you right or wrong since I had never been in any law class since I live out of town. But wouldn't you think if the Elders are teaching nonsense in the law classes, don't you think they would fear for their salvations? From the elders that I had talked to and writtened to, the only thing I hear them stressing to me is keeping Yahweh's 613 laws.

As for using beefs during Passover meals, are you indicating that lambs are served along with beefs or just plain beefs were served? Since I'm not an Elder, it is not my place to say whether serving beef or beef with lamb is permissible.

Posted by setfreebythetruth on October 23, 2007 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To jamieg:

Bill Hawkins better known as Yisrayl is a megalomaniac.

meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a =
1. A psychopathological condition in which delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence predominate.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

He will deceive anyone to get the POWER he wants.

And yes he has money...all of the money that the people in the HOY had when they came, all the money they had while there, and all the money ones had before they left. There was a big deal over eight(8) safes full of money that Kay Hawkins had taken off the property and had to return to him full of everyone's money.

Yes, he wanted multiple wives. It all started when he was found out that he was having an affair with his secretary while he was married to Kay Hawkins (his first wife). So, he had scripture changed to say multiple wives was OK. So, his secretary became his second wife.

Yes, he wants to be recognized as a prophet. That is why he claims he and his brother are the two witnesses.

Yisrayl Hawkins (Bill) is a liar and the truth is not in him. He is, only, a deceiver.

I pray before he dies he sees the error of his ways and ask forgiveness of his sins. I, also, pray each and everyone he has deceived sees the truth.

Posted by jamieg on October 23, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Again, it depends on the culture that you're brought up in but keep in mind that the scripture never said anything about a girl having to at a certain age to marry."

So it's not technically a sin to you then. Ok. So in supposedly having sex with an 8 year old would Yededya Hawkins have been violating the cultural rules of the HOY or not?

Posted by yaaqovh on October 23, 2007 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace to All

Please, House of Yahweh members, how long does it take to get an Elder to answer these questions??

Is Sperm, ok to eat?

Does Sperm have blood in it???

Yisrayl Hawkins will not allow any of the Elders to answer this question online, or in public, because If he says yes it is clean, CPS will shut down Hoy, and take ALL their children from them.
If he says NO, all the members who's wives have been forced to give these "pleasures of the Throat" to their husbands will just really tear a hole in their group!

Dammed if you do, and Dammed if you don't!
This is a no win situation for hoy. this is why Yisrayl Hawkins will not ever answer the question. Let's think about this a minute. If you were yh and I said these things about you, you would answer that day, and clear your name. yh hides as he has for two years, and I have been calling him constantly.

Only the guilty hide!!!

The age issue is confirmed by many statements hoy has made, and the young girls that bare children under age.

Lets not miss the point about the age with Yedidiyah. He was accused of sexually assalting his step-daughter, not a wife to be. Scriptures tells us you cannot marry a mother, and daughter both. Yedidiyah is accused of doing something that is against the State laws, and The Fathers Laws! The report stated Yedidiyah planned to marry this girl. The House of Yahweh is intentionally breaking this Law allowing this action. Yedidiyah is the second in command in hoy, and he should be above reproach, as well as all the elders of hoy.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 23, 2007 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the bible says that you can test the spirits by asking if they believe in Jesus Christ and that he came and died on the cross for our sins so that we may have eternal life...If the spirit does not believe in Jesus Christ they are the dark ones and filled of evil...

Posted by setfreebythetruth on October 24, 2007 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO: 7chagith613

How can you fall away from the truth when you haven't received it at the HOY?

I am not a bitter individual and I am not looking for a platform to discredit the HOY with false accusations. I am standing up for the TRUTH and to try and give anyone help to see the TRUTH.

If The HOY are a peaceful people that teaches peace not hatred, then why don't you understand that you are not special, that you are the same as anyone in this world. Why do you condemn the people not in the HOY when Our Heavenly Father loves us all and gives everyone of us chances time and time again to turn to Him.

I do not bring forth rumors, gossip, and accusations while putting innocent peoples lives in danger. I, only, want the TRUTH to be revealed. And it appears that the only innocent ones at the HOY are the children because everyone of the adults (whether they participate in the acts or not) ARE CONDONING the acts by not speaking out against such awful crimes.

If the House of Yahweh stands for and it begins with Truth, then tell the truth about all the innocent children whose lives are being destroyed by the sexual desires of EVIL old men.

Does your Book of Yahweh still teach that if you see someone doing wrong that you are to go to that person and tell them?

Posted by yaaqovh on October 24, 2007 at 3:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We are still waiting for an answer about the questions about what is proper in marrage.

Where are the hoy members? Please answer the question.

If you hide now, we will all know your answer.

Blanca Cantu / cantub@reporternews.com
Sunday, October 8, 2006
Two Reporter-News staff members recently drove into the compound unannounced and were directed to an office at the end of the driveway. A woman emerged from another office and said an appointment would be necessary before talking to anyone. She offered a piece of paper with a phone number and times to schedule an appointment.
Attempts to schedule an appointment were unsuccessful. A woman at the Abilene office told a reporter no one was interested in being interviewed.

On 01 17-2007 I "Yaaqov" called Yisrayl Hawkins office, and scheduled a meeting with Yisrayl Hawkins to discuss why He excommunicated Members for reading the Dead Sea Scrolls! He is to call me with a time and date! 
01-23-2007, I have called The House of Yahweh (325) 676-9492 everyday, and sometimes two, or more times a day to get a scheduled time for our meeting, but I am told he has been informed, and he will let me know. 
02-01-2007 I have called again for a meeting! No meeting! This is the way he treats members he ex-communicates, and no one in the group will read anything, but Yisrayl Hawkins books. The group suffers from stubborn blindness, and cannot see it.
03-01-2007 I still do not have a meeting time, and Yisrayl Hawkins continues to hide from me. Righteous people own up to their mistakes, what is wrong with Yisrayl Hawkins?
03-13-2007 Yisrayl Hawkins has filed a "no trespassing warning" against me from getting with-in 300 feet of the main gate of The House of Yahweh.
Why does a man wanting to save souls hide?
HOY teaches 2,000,000 people will so come to hoy, but how will hoy treat them?
Yh tells the members, DO NOT talk to your neighbors that are in the group, much less outsiders...WOW! So how will you help anyone?
Yaaqov

Posted by yaaqovh on October 24, 2007 at 4:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HOY members!

Why does a man wanting to save souls hide?
HOY teaches 2,000,000 people will soon come to hoy, but how will hoy treat them?
Yh tells the members, DO NOT talk to your neighbors that are in the group, much less outsiders...WOW! So how will you help anyone?
We are still waiting for Yisrayl Hawkins response!!!

HOY members your leader is making you look very bad, and not answering, is convicting All the members of the same crimes as your teacher Yedidiyah!

I believe All people who did not agree with Yisrayl Hawkins evil ways have ALL left, and their are only the bad eggs still in hoy.

Now it's time to shut down the group, and put all the child abusing people in jail.

If you have a wife who in years past bore children under age, then you can expect prison time before this is done!

Yaaqov

Posted by Pure_Light on October 24, 2007 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"If one person goes astray you are saying that the whole community is responsible?"

If the community's values supported him doing it, yes.

Who's saying that the whole community supports him?

Molesting and murder, is not acceptable period!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by yaaqovh on October 24, 2007 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pure_light, I am stating that The House of Yahweh have Elders that ALL Teach oral sex "eating Sperm" is clean! These Elders teach this to children as young as 7 years old in their Priest classes! ALL THE People in this group believe the Elders, and just teaching a child this is right makes ALL THE ELDERS ABUSIVE to children. If members allow their Daughters to practice this activity before they are 18, then, they are abusive parents, and I am trying very hard to get The State of Texas to Arrest ALL the ELDERS for child Abuse, and take ALL the children away from these abusive members of The House of Yahweh!!! I pray this will occur very fast, before hoy hurts more people.

Yaaqov Hawkins

Posted by yaaqovh on October 24, 2007 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If The things I have stated about The House of Yahweh, and Yisrayl Hawkins were false, he would stand up for his reputation. I have been stating these things for a whole year on my website, and now everyone is learning of this activity.

If you had a church, and I was saying these things about you, and they were not true, how long would you not answer?

How long would you hide from the press?

The House of Yahweh, and ALL it's Elders are guilty men! All the members abuse their children, because Yisrayl Hawkins teach them to do so. All the people that disagreed with these practices have ALL left, or never went there to begin with.

Taking down The House of Yahweh!
Yaaqov Hawkins

Posted by Pure_Light on October 24, 2007 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

SO AGAIN, I SAY:

From the words of Fender:

If one person goes astray you are saying that the whole community is responsible?

So next time your neighbor kills someone should we kill the whole neighborhood or anyone who knew the killer?

Where does this guilt by association we are promoting come from?

I can't believe some of the comments that I have seen on this article. Before you become the judge and jury why don't we let the legal system do it's job first?

And should that one person be found guilty,where does that say that everyone is in agreement with that person or follows that persons mindset?

I know of many people everyday who are found guilty of crimes, however, I don't see people saying let's go kill the whole church?

Posted by SJohnson on October 24, 2007 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

YAAQOV,
Before CPS can do anything, someone has to call in a referral. Then, CPS can do an investigation. The problem is that no one will talk. These young girls are brainwashed into not talking. Thank God that this current 14 year old talked. Your mission should be to find others that will talk, and let CPS and the authorities do their jobs. I'm sure that is easier said than done. Eventually someone has to "talk" before action can be taken.

Posted by Comeout_fromamong_them on October 24, 2007 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Reasons for HOY not responding:

No casual conversation allowed between members unless it involves the work.
No TV, no newspapers, no magazines, no internet allowed.
No shopping. This is done by designated shoppers with individual list and money.
Kept separate from the world to avoid diseases.
(or that is the reason given)

YH lives in several big houses and some have gold doors and door knobs. All land with purple post on FM 254 belongs to him. He does not drive an old cadillac, but a new SUV.

All are on a gag order by YH concerning these charges and anyone who breaks them will lose their salvation and the girl who made the charges is considered a liar and a whore. (Last weeks sermon)

Posted by yaaqovh on October 24, 2007 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CPS is doing a fantastic job at this time and hopefully with open forums like this, more people WILL come forward about any information, as I can already see this taking place in my email, as I am getting more information every day, and I do not think it will take much longer until all those who are guilty will be punished for their crimes.

www.skipstanley.com
Yaaqov Pushiebaquarpathä Hawkins

Posted by viet737 on October 24, 2007 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's weird. If no member is allowed to read the newspaper or internet, why do they refer you to newspaper articles within their sermons and tell you to go check this out for yourself? As for casual conversations, I don't recalled being stopped to talk about subject such as football when I was conversing with one of the member. On being separated from the world, perhaps there are many diseases out there that we may want to avoid. I do recalled that one of the Elder states in a sermon that even we should try to avoid dealing with the world if possible but he again states it may be easier said than done since we still need to go out and buy foods and other essential items that we need. We also still need to interact with the world since we need to work with people to get the words out.

As for Yisrayl Hawkins owning big items, he once states that people says he also owns a 34 feet yacht. So he brought in a model boat on one of his sermon with 34 little feet glued to the bottom of it. I don't know about the big mansion or SUV. Maybe he'll bring in a model house and a 34:1 replica of an SUV too...lol.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just to be clear, I was there during a sermon in which Yisrayl BuffaloBill Hawkins stated that sperm was "clean" and actually healthy and full of healthy proteins,etc.! I am sure my daughter who was about 12 at the time can confirm this for you all. She also had to listen to Elder Yahuda's sermon on how the woman who have no husband around should NOT masturbate and also how nothing feels as great in a vagina as a penis, and that no dildo, whether it be a cucumber, carrot or actual plastic dildo could EVER feel as great as a penis in a vagina! YES, all the children had to listen to this CRAP in a Sabbath Service! There were other times YISRAYL talked about how a vagina of a woman in the "world" [gentile] was like a dirty sewer system, actually he called the vagina a COCK![i always thought that a cock was a penis?} whatever..young children had to hear this in services-so suffice it to say much MORE is heard behind closed doors in the priests class and I have a witness to them teaching to the young boys that sperm is clean to eat as well, and that masturbating is great option, and to make sure they "don't go off half-cocked" in the ending statement by the Elder participating in teaching the class, in his ending prayer. By the way, my name is Rachylyah Hawkins and anyone still there at hoy knows what I have stated is in fact, TRUE. They also taught that the "heathen" [gentiles] screwed their chickens and cows. My friend who was a farmer, said after that sermon she could no longer look at her animals the same as it freaked her out. I apologize for having to be so graphic, but this is to show the truth that the children are being abused, just by having to listen to the sermons even. These sermons do not uplift the Heavenly Father.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To Come_Out_From_Among_Them: Yes, you are right in what you stated! I also heard that Yisrayl Hawkins brought up a story of an eight year old who accused someone of sexual molestation, back when he worked for the police dept and that she was a liar and a whore..gee, what a coincidence-Yedidiyah's daughter was eight when he began stealing her innocence and sexually abusing her- More power of suggestion by the master brain washing manipulative controlling BuffaloBill. And yes, he keeps them away from the world communications in order to control them.

Posted by viet737 on October 24, 2007 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Rachylyah,
Please let me know which weekly sermon was that so that I can backtrack my tapelist. I must've missed that one somehow since I don't recall a sermon where Yisrayl talks about graphic sex like you're describing. He tends to talk a more about foods and eating certain herbs to keep us healthy but never recalled him mentioning anything about eating sperms. Please email me at viet737@yahoo.com if there are things that you want to tell me that you can't post here. Thank You.

Posted by Comeout_fromamong_them on October 24, 2007 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The sermons you are referring to are called the X-rated sermons. All were told that is was to be explicit to turn members from sin. It was embarrassing and children from newborns on up were in the congregation forced (if you didn't attend the Holy Convocation (Sabbath Services) you were sinning) to listen to all of it.
Apparently Viet737, you haven't been there in awhile. He hasn't brought out the sermons on the 38 Ft Yacht in over 6 years. He has a 2004 or 2005 Tan Suburban, and one of his workers recently commented on the gold door and door knob when slaves are paid $10-$80 a week depending on the job they do, their gender and age. Payroll involves from age 6 to 85.
By casual conversation, I mean personal life in general. And oh by the way, if someone is not joyful with a situation and they share it with someone else, that someone else is supposed to report it as sin, as the signs are up all over the place to report sin to your supervisor. Control is the name of the game at the HOY.
Oh by the way, it was announced last week that the Summer work program has ended and school has resumed. All children under 15 had to report back to school Monday Morning and they didn't know where to go. The summer work program lasted approximatley six years. What a joke!

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear viet73: you stated:

"He tends to talk a more about foods and eating certain herbs to keep us healthy":

THIS is what the Mashiyach stated:

Mat 6:25: Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Mat 6:31: Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

Luke 12:29: And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

hoy does NOT follow the Mashiyach! They do not even KNOW him.!

and come_ out_ from_ among_ them explained that those sermons were from over three years ago, and you will have to ask for the "x-rated" series, if they still have them-i am sure they are either non-existent now, or have been "doctored" to appear okidoke, honky-dory now. try and find out.

Posted by viet737 on October 24, 2007 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Yahshua meant taking too much care about the luxury life. In other words, don't worry too much about how I can get that steak dinner and some dom perignon to with it.

The message that I'm getting from Yisrayl Hawkins sermons is eating certain foods to build up our health and immune systems. I don't think eating tumeric and herbs qualifies as a steak dinner. But again, this is just my observation on what I get from his sermons.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe the Saviour, yhwsa..yode hey waw shin ayin..meant EXACTLY what he said. I TRUST him, and him alone. I TRUST that he said what he MEANT and those scriptures I quoted above are EXACTLY what he meant.

We are not to add or take away from the words written.

Did the Mashiyach ever give a sermon on foods that should be eaten other than what is ALREADY written in Leviticus and the clean and unclean foods which he surely spoke about sometimes..as it pertained to the LAW of the FATHER.

Did he ever have a store in which to buy the said mentioned "necessary products"?..hmm? NO! Also, everything in the hoy kitchen that is available for lunch that day is told before and after the sermon... MORE SELLING, SELLING, SELLING!!!!

too MUCH emphasis put on "food" "food" "food"! that is SOLD, SOLD, SOLD by hoy, hoy, hoy!

john[yahahchanan] 6:33: For the bread of YHWH is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

john 6:35[yahahchanan]:And YHWSA said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

john[yahachanan] 6:48:I am that bread of life.

john[yahahchanan] 6:51: am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

does HOY speak of the one who DIED for you? [no, i was THERE i know they do NOT-only once in a blue moon maybe elder benyamin would speak of him once a year]

..do they worship the Father in spirit and in truth? ..before Abraham was, I AM!!! spoke the SAVIOR. john 8:58 [yahahchanan]8:58: The Mashiyach said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

THE BREAD OF LIFE AND THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM ARE MISSING FROM YOUR HOY "RECIPE"...which is therefore a "recipe" for disastor!

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vet737, you stated: "As for Yisrayl Hawkins owning big items, he once states that people says he also owns a 34 feet yacht. So he brought in a model boat on one of his sermon with 34 little feet glued to the bottom of it. I don't know about the big mansion or SUV. Maybe he'll bring in a model house and a 34:1 replica of an SUV too...lol."..

no replica of suv, he does have one an suv. i know not about the "yacht"-probably has a model and maybe the real thing too..but i DO KNOW he lives in a BIG BIG house, [which is one of many he owns] across the street from where the "slaves" live in trailer homes, some worse than others, and with not much land of their own to speak of, not to mention one cannot even truly BUY from hoy property..it is only "leased" and many do not learn that until LATER..how convenient..wonder if they would have bought it to begin with had they known the TRUTH?.. mar 6:8: And commanded them that they should take nothing for [their] journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in [their] purse: luke 22:35: And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

TRUE DISCIPLES are DESCRIBED AS ABOVE, ALL ELSE are full of LIES and HOLES in their false "righteousness".

the poor people following YH..many of them HAVE a true HEART for the Father..and would give up all they own to serve the true Father--cannot say that about Yisrayl Hawkins however. Never seen him give up anything, only take, take and take again. The true people there are the ones I love and am praying to one day soon help them.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

isayah 42:22 But this [is] a people robbed and spoiled; [they are] all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

i am saying now, RESTORE!

Posted by mlt_rmt on October 24, 2007 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I WARN EVERYONE WHO HEARS THE WORDS OF PROPHECY IN THIS BOOK:IF ANYONE ADDS ANYTHING TO THESE WORDS,GOD WILL GIVE THEM THE PLAGUES WRITTEN ABOUT,AND IF ANYONE TAKES AWAY FROM THESE WORDS,GOD WILL TAKE AWAY THEIR SHARE OF THE TREE OF LIFE AND OF THE HOLY CITY,WHICH ARE WRITTEN ABOUT IN THIS BOOK.

Posted by RachylyahHawkins on October 24, 2007 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear viet737: I appreciate your comments and the fact that you are open-minded about the truth and make some insightful observations; I am just hoping you will look at them on another level, as we all need to learn to do. peace!:)

Posted by Comeout_fromamong_them on October 24, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is going to get worse before it gets better. I worry about all the poor trapped people out there with no where to go and no one to turn to. They were taught to turn their backs on their families. They honestly believe every word that is given them by YH, and they do what they are told. Submission and obedience is key out there, and few think for themselves as that would be leaning on their own understanding, which is considered sin. Is this the great falling away? Many have left and many are thinking about leaving. And is he being persecuted for righteousness sake as they were told? I don't think sexual assault on a child is cause for righteous persecution. Everyone has been hurt by this, but they just won't admit it. At least not yet.

Posted by viet737 on October 24, 2007 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Rachylyah,
My only desire is to know the truth. Let me give you a little history about myself. I went to school with one of the member of the House of Yahweh back 12 years ago. From my youth up, I was raised in a catholic family and felt that the truth was not there. When I was introduced to the House of Yahweh by this person, I felt a certain warmth and truth from listening to those sermons. From that point on, I went on the tape list and Prophetic Word magazine.

I had never been to the sanctuary in Abilene or to Abilene for that matter. Most of what I learned from the House of Yahweh are through the sermon tapes, Prophetic Words, and tapes that I receive.

When I state that I hear sincerities in Yisrayl Hawkins teachings, I'm speaking from a standpoint of being able to sense what kind of person they are through their tone of voice. Being a psychology major, I can pretty read a person's character through their speech.

Posted by viet737 on October 24, 2007 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My only desire is to know the truth and after listening to hundred of sermons for decades, I was really surprised on the subject that you states are being taught in sermon that I myself never hear about. In every sermons, I hear the emphasis on putting Father Yahweh first in our lives and living by his laws. As for someone saying that Yisrayl Hawkins wanting to be a prophet, I do recall in one of his sermon where he states that he's not a prophet but only a teacher. When he tells us that in the kingdom, he would be joyous to be a floor sweeper or a lowest servant, I see the humbleness in his personality.

As for his prophecies, I can say truthfully that what he states very well can come to pass in the near future. A lot of people may question why his prophecy of Sept 12, 2006 or Oct 13 of this year had not come to pass. I do recall that the dates he provided are what's provided to him from scriptures. As for the actual event taking place, that's in Yahweh's time. I don't question this because I think about the times back when Mosheh led the children of Israyl through the desert for 40 years and they mumured against him stating why he haven't takened them to the land of milk and honey yet. Those who murmured eventually died off and never saw the promised land. I don't want to be one of those people who doubt in today's modern time. I had experienced a lot of blessings from Father Yahweh and pray to him every night and thank him for all his blessings. I want to make sure that when the time of trouble comes that we will be protected from all the disasters. With the tensions that's going on the middle east at this time, a nuclear disaster can take place in under 24 hours without giving us time to blink.

Sorry about my long winded comments but I just want to let you know why I have a lot of respects for Yisrayl Hawkins and all of the Elders from an outsider point of view. About what occurred to Yedidiyah, I can only pray that there was some kind of confusion between him and that 14 years old girl because I can't imagine Yedidiyah doing what he's being accused of since I can tell from the tone of his voice in the sabbath sermons that he hates perversions and sins. I too appreciate your comments Rachylyah and I like to regard everyone who serves and worship Father Yahweh as my brothers and sisters. May Yahweh Bless.

Posted by rick_oshay on October 24, 2007 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am shocked that the Reporter-News has let this mess go on for this long. I thought this was a family newspaper, not Hustler. The only thing these posts prove is that there are a lot of very scary people in this world.

Posted by cycloptic on October 24, 2007 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Being a psychology major, I can pretty read a person's character through their speech."

I don't think it's the education in psychology that permits you to do this. Although I'm sure your professors are fascinated by your powers.

Posted by setfreebythetruth on October 24, 2007 at 11:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To viet737:

What you are saying is like people who meet on the internet do. You know what this person wants you to know, NOT whether it is the truth or not.

You deceive yourself when you think that these two (Y (Bill)Hawkins and Yedidiyah) are as they present themselves on the tapes from the HOY.

When we first came to the HOY, we came only for the feast days every year because we lived out of state. The people of the HOY showed so much love for the newcomers during these times.

After a while we decided that we needed to move to Clyde, Texas and help build the new sanctuary.

After spending a short time at the HOY all the time instead of just feast days, you discover that everything is not as it is represented.

There was contention or discord throughout the HOY. We have witnessed Jacob Hawkins dying and the scripture being changed because of this.
We witnessed Y (Bill) Hawkins and his elders change scripture when his first wife (Kay) found out he was having an aff